The Official Automotive Thread Version the Second

[MrAmish]

Originally Posted by twisted by dezign

Now come on, isn't that stretching the truth just a little. I can agree that it is the best bang for the buck, though.

I would rather the Nissan over a Ferrari F430, a Lamborghini Gallardo, an Audi R8, etc, etc.

It's pretty much the most amazing supercar on the market because of its price and what it can do on the track.

[MrAmish]

Originally Posted by MrVegeta

This is the most awesome thing I've seen since Monday...

http://www.autoblog.com/2008/07/23/p...mmage-concept/

The M1?

Christ that's ugly.

[MrVegeta]

And speaking of the Nurburgring...

http://www.autoblog.com/2008/07/22/c...-ring-in-8-20/

[MrVegeta]

Originally Posted by Free2SUCK

The M1?

Christ that's ugly.

I think it looks fucking awesome. Like a cross between a shark and super car.

[MrAmish]

Originally Posted by MrVegeta

And speaking of the Nurburgring...

http://www.autoblog.com/2008/07/22/c...-ring-in-8-20/

LOL only 2 seconds faster than the Cobalt SS

[MrVegeta]

Originally Posted by Free2SUCK

I would rather the Nissan over a Ferrari F430, a Lamborghini Gallardo, an Audi R8, etc, etc.

It's pretty much the most amazing supercar on the market because of its price and what it can do on the track.

I'd take a Z06 over any car except for a ZR1, without batting an eye.

[MrAmish]

Originally Posted by MrVegeta

I think it looks fucking awesome. Like a cross between a shark and super car.

It's hideous. Way too much going on.

[Rogue Agent]

Originally Posted by Free2SUCK

The M1?

Christ that's ugly.

I honestly think BMW is purposely kicking their fanbase in the balls until they figure out how far they can go until people realize their designers are insane.

[twisted by dezign]

Originally Posted by Free2SUCK

I would rather the Nissan over a Ferrari F430, a Lamborghini Gallardo, an Audi R8, etc, etc.

It's pretty much the most amazing supercar on the market because of its price and what it can do on the track.

Yeah, that's why I said it's the best bang for the buck. It really is a great car for the price but I'd prefer something else if I had to buy one supercar.

[MrAmish]

Originally Posted by MrVegeta

I'd take a Z06 over any car except for a ZR1, without batting an eye.

And not a single person itt would be surprised by that.

[twisted by dezign]

Originally Posted by Herrdoktor

I honestly think BMW is purposely kicking their fanbase in the balls until they figure out how far they can go until people realize their designers are insane.

It doesn't even look like a Bimmer.

[MrAmish]

That's seriously the ugliest car I've seen in a long time.

I mean, we're talking Pontiac Aztec levels of ugly.

[Rogue Agent]

Originally Posted by twisted by dezign

It doesn't even look like a Bimmer.

Most 'Bimmers' made in the past 5+ years don't look like BMWs.

I fucking hate the last two generations.

[MrVegeta]

Originally Posted by Free2SUCK

LOL only 2 seconds faster than the Cobalt SS

I think that speaks more highly of the Cobalt than it speaks lowly of the Camaro. Shit, the Cobalt was 3 seconds faster than an Exige S and Cayman S.

[twisted by dezign]

Originally Posted by MrVegeta

I think that speaks more highly of the Cobalt than it speaks lowly of the Camaro. Shit, the Cobalt was 3 seconds faster than an Exige S and Cayman S.

The Cobalt looks like complete shit but it does perform VERY well.

[MrVegeta]

Originally Posted by twisted by dezign

The Cobalt looks like complete shit but it does perform VERY well.

Its got a 10:1 weight to horsepower ratio, it should perform well...

[MrAmish]

To be fair, the Cobalt has like 50 more horsepower than the Exige, plus the exige has more aerodynamic bits that increase drag. Meaning the cobalt can get better speeds on the huge straight. No way is it better in the corners than an exige.

Just sayin. That is impressive though, I'll admit, but, just sayin.

[MrAmish]

Originally Posted by MrVegeta

I think that speaks more highly of the Cobalt than it speaks lowly of the Camaro. Shit, the Cobalt was 3 seconds faster than an Exige S and Cayman S.

It speaks lowly of the Camaro, considering it's on a corvette chassis whereas the cobalt is on a cobalt chassis

[MrVegeta]

Originally Posted by Free2SUCK

To be fair, the Cobalt has like 50 more horsepower than the Exige, plus the exige has more aerodynamic bits that increase drag. Meaning the cobalt can get better speeds on the huge straight. No way is it better in the corners than an exige.

Just sayin. That is impressive though, I'll admit, but, just sayin.

But the Exige is like 700 lbs lighter...

[MrVegeta]

Originally Posted by Free2SUCK

It speaks lowly of the Camaro, considering it's on a corvette chassis whereas the cobalt is on a cobalt chassis

Uh, no. The Camaro is on the same platform as the G8, called Zeta. Which is based heavily off the Sigma platform, which underpins the Cadillac CTS and STS.

[MrVegeta]

I didn't realize the SS Turbo was only $23k. I have a renewed interest in the Cobalt, especially since the SS no longer has that ridiculous wing...

[Phreak]

I think if the M1 didn't stick to the BMW "buck teeth" grille concept, it could be attractive. But it all falls together at the grill. The rest isn't bad, though those wheels are hideous.

[MrVegeta]

Originally Posted by Free2SUCK

And not a single person itt would be surprised by that.

[MrAmish]

Originally Posted by MrVegeta

But the Exige is like 700 lbs lighter...

Only matters on the corners. On a huge, flat straight like on nurburgring, it's all about horsepower and drag.

[Shoota]

The production M1 should look better than that, but that's ugly.

[eafo]

the production wont have those hidious wheels and the front headlights will look more Z4ish i'm guessing.
and the hood wont be as sharply angled. it will be hawt. and overpriced.

[MrVegeta]

Real life Camaro pictures. Black is an SS, red is and RS V6

[aaron11291]

that thing looks pretty damn nice

[Shoota]

Looks like Lotus has a new supercar in the works and this one has an interior!

Weighs under 3000 lbs and has a 3.5L Toyota V6 making 276 HP.

[Shoota]

That's a good looking car, but after the Elise maybe it looks a bit dull.

[Rogue Agent]

Originally Posted by MrVegeta

Real life Camaro pictures.

If you don't think that is a good photo you are either:
A.) A female
B.) Someone who loves man parts
C.) Someone who loves man parts and touching little boys

[MrAmish]

Originally Posted by Shoota

Looks like Lotus has a new supercar in the works and this one has an interior!

Weighs under 3000 lbs and has a 3.5L Toyota V6 making 276 HP.

Wow, ownage. Say hello to the future best handling production car in the world.

[eafo]

holy crap that is sexy.

[elvispelvis]

Originally Posted by Herrdoktor

If you don't think that is a good photo you are either:
A.) A female
B.) Someone who loves man parts
C.) Someone who loves man parts and touching little boys

the brakes look small

[Shoota]

Originally Posted by Kiki Vidis

the brakes look small

Most brakes do look small in a 20" wheel.

[MrAmish]

The new camaro looks great. Isn't the V6 a turbo? That's pretty sexy. I'd still rather have a Mustang GT.

[MrVegeta]

Originally Posted by Free2SUCK

The new camaro looks great. Isn't the V6 a turbo? That's pretty sexy. I'd still rather have a Mustang GT.

No, it isn't. 300 hp, naturally aspirated 3.6L DOHC.

[MrVegeta]

Originally Posted by Shoota

Most brakes do look small in a 20" wheel.

lmao, word.

[elvispelvis]

scion tc or honda civic or nissan rogue or toyota camry

leaning to the scion

[Shoota]

What a strange group of cars to choose from.....I would probably choose the Civic.

[MrAmish]

scion is probably the slowest of those four

and the ugliest

up to you though

[eafo]

the scion is actually the fastest. 175hp is by far the most.

what are you looking for in a car though?

id take a scion xb over the nissan
have you looked at the cobalt SS? 260hp for 23k before incentives.

[MrVegeta]

Originally Posted by eafo

the scion is actually the fastest. 175hp is by far the most.

what are you looking for in a car though?

id take a scion xb over the nissan
have you looked at the cobalt SS? 260hp for 23k before incentives.

Its got like $1500 off at the moment, too. And you could probably get more than that if you were good at haggling.

[eafo]

Originally Posted by MrVegeta

Its got like $1500 off at the moment, too. And you could probably get more than that if you were good at haggling.

srsly. gm is dying to get rid of inventory.
im guessing you could probably get it for close to 21k out the door, including the taxes and tags. which is a great deal.

[MrVegeta]

Originally Posted by eafo

srsly. gm is dying to get rid of inventory.
im guessing you could probably get it for close to 21k out the door, including the taxes and tags. which is a great deal.

That's its a crap car, and they know its a crap car and the Cruze (the Cobalt's replacement) is still two years away...

[eafo]

Originally Posted by MrVegeta

That's its a crap car, and they know its a crap car and the Cruze (the Cobalt's replacement) is still two years away...

still, a 260hp crap car, or a boring arsed civic?

[MrVegeta]

Originally Posted by eafo

still, a 260hp crap car, or a boring arsed civic?

The Cobalt is actually a nice car if you can live with a middle-of-the-road interior. With 260hp, its a road burner, for sure.

Though there was a used 2007 Civic Si sedan at a local dealer a few weeks ago for $19,900.

[eafo]

Originally Posted by MrVegeta

The Cobalt is actually a nice car if you can live with a middle-of-the-road interior. With 260hp, its a road burner, for sure.

Though there was a used 2007 Civic Si sedan at a local dealer a few weeks ago for $19,900.

200hp and uses premium fuel.
but yea, probably a better long term purchase then the cobalt.

[MrVegeta]

Originally Posted by eafo

200hp and uses premium fuel.
but yea, probably a better long term purchase then the cobalt.

That kinda sucks...

It would certainly be a better interior to spend time in, though.

[MrVegeta]

This is much better...



Unfortunately, its supposedly still 18-20 months away from dealers in North America, though it debuts in Europe and Asia next year.